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GATHERING FACED POLICE THREATS: May 6: 10:00 am MST: Two BIA-Hopi Rangers (Officer Begay & Officer Nodman) and a representative from the tribal chairman's office delivered a message, papers and take pictures. "D. Blackgoat and B. Katenay and all participants are ﾔtrespassing and illegally holding event.' All (new) constructions must cease immediately. (Hopi) tribe was never notified..." May 7, 10:00 am MST, Officer Nodman delivers a copy of a fax from Navajo Nation President Shirley send to Hopi tribal Chairman Wayne Taylor, Jr. "Mr. Chairman, in the interest of ﾔcooperation in good faith between our tribes, 'please, issue a permit to allow the celebration for the life of Roberta Blackgoat to go on..." ROUGH TRANSCRIPTION & TRANSLATIONS |
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F: What's your name, sir? D: Danny Blackgoat. F: How old are you? Is this your hourse here? D: Yes, sir. F: Are you Hopi/Navajo? D: What do you mean by that? F: Do you have a census number? D: Yes. What nationality are you? [I'm not sure who was saying what in this part] Oh, pretty much
Illinois Redneck. A little of everything, Cherokee, Irish, German.
Whatever
happened to be living there at the time. F:Where is your census number? D: In my memory. F. Are you enrolled Navajo? D. Yes. F. How long are your guests here? D: For the duration of the meeting. The next couple days. F: Danny, are you renting out space? D: No, sir. Why should I? F: Cause if you were, if your were renting a touristing then it would be a tribal concern, if your taking $ for renting out trival land, then the Tribe would trouble evicting non-Indians. That's whyn we've come out today. How many guests do you have here with you? D: I don't know. I didn't count it. F: Are they building any permanent structures? D: No. F. What's the longest any non-Indian has been staying out here? D: Why the question? F: To see if they are living here permanently. This is Indian land. D: They're here for as long as they want to be. F: Non-Indians? D: Whoever's willing to live in peace and harmony and tranquility is welcome to live here as long as they wish. F: And so they stay here longer than a week? D: Yes, more than a week. F: How many would that be? D: I can't say. F: How many Navajo are out here? More than 20? D: Have to count them. F: Are there any people living back here that aren't sitting right here? D: I don't know. F: This should be all. D: It looks to me like less than 20. F: I'm not here to bust anybody's chops, Danny. Just got a call that there were non-Indians squatting here on Hopi land. We gotta come look at it because the Indian cops can't do much about it. It's one of the few places in the world were a person's race actually makes a difference as to whether they have jurisdiction over it. I'm not even sure we have jurisdiction over that. I don't know if trhere is a federal statute in terms of squatting. Paul Bloom: Well, nobody has to answer your questions. F: No, absolutely not. Paul Bloom: So you don't have to answer any question and I'd suggest you don't, just as a friend. I've seen this kind of stuff happen before. F: Waht's that you've got experience with? Paul Bloom: I've seen political harassmnenbt. I've seen police go after people because of what they believe. F: Well, I don't know what his politics are. I didn't know him until about 10 minutes ago. Paul Bloom: I mean obviously there's nothing illegal or forward [ not sure about this word] going on here. F: Well, it would be if you guys were out here trying to make a permanent settlement. And then it would be a problem, especially with the Hopi Tribe cause you guys aren't Hopi. This land was reserved for them. And not for people who just want to come out here and squat. Danny to Pauline (translation0: This area is reserved for Hopi. D to F: We were living here before them. F: Well, that's right a dn taht's why its reserved for you. It's not reserved for someone who wants to just come out and squat and say "here I am. I'm gonna put up my own place and just take it." Paul Bloom: But we have a right of free assembly. He has a right to have us here. So there's no issue here. F: Well, there was an issue and we've already covered it. And if nobody wants to cooperate it's up to you guys. It really doesn't matter. If we come over here a month from now and we see the same faces, well it's pretty obvious you're squatting. Then there's gonna be a problem I'm sure. Maybe not with the federal gov't. but certainly with the Hopi Tribe. Paul Bloom: Well, hope you have something better to do in a month. F: Well, I hope you have a better place to go. Pauline (translated by Danny): What did you say? D: Wait, she's got a question. Pauline (translated by Danny): What is the Hopis saying to you? Danny to Pauline: This guy's saying that this is Hopi land, and it's got to follow Hopi law. Pauline (translated by Danny): How many of them are there? F: 4 Paul Bloom: Can we have your name? (FBI gives biz card) Pauline (translated by Danny): How do you figure this guy is a Hopi? Danny's translation: She wants to know if you have
a Hopi with you. [ think I blew it transcribing in this part] Pauline (translated by Danny): Brting a traditional Hopi when you come here. F: I don't think I know any traditional Hopis. Pauline (translated by Danny): She says a grandmother or grandfather. You're a white person. So is this person and that and that. (gestures to cars). None of you are Hopi leaders. If they come here and tell me this is their land, then I'll listen to them. I came from across the way. I don't travel by car. F: Does she have a question? D: The question is do you have Hopi with you? F. We have two. Danny translates what Pauline says: She said I want to have traditional Hopis to meet with us. We'll settle matters in a positive way that way. She says there were some other traditional Navajos here but they just left recently. She says I'm not the only one here. F: OK, well, I don't know if I know any traditional Hopis. I'm afraid you'll just have to settle for uniformed officers. Pauline (translated by Danny): That'll be good. F: OK, anything else? Pauline (translated by Danny): (?) Not you guys. Some of the other traditional people were here and have gone home. This land the Hopis do not want it. I've been conversing with a Hopi who says we don't want this land here. It was taken for no reason. So you need to know that, and you and you and you. (to 2 FBI and 2 Hopi Rangers) F: We know what again? D: That this land, the Hopis do not want, and they're sorry that we are going through some hard times. [Break in tape] As to what you say, there are some non-Indians squatting here. I want to tell you that there's been non-Indians squatting on Native American lands since 1492. And your rent is due. So stop harassing us. This our land. This is where I was born. My umbilical cord is buried close by here. I am of the land here. And these people are my helpers. They have goodness in their hearts. They have genuine interest in saving the environment, in stop the polluting the land, the air. They're here to clean up the waters and prevent further burial of nuclear waste in the ground. F: OK, OK, I get it. D: Mother Earth ... you've troubled yourself coming here. At least you can listen to this taxpayer. I hope you lose ... your ... trouble. [not sure about the part about "lose."] F (walking off): If you want me to listen to you I'll listen over here where we can have a normal conversation, not this lecture that's going on. It's putting me to sleep. If you've got a beef maybe I'll listen to you. There might be something I can do about it. I doubt it [not sure who said this that comes before this note] The soul reason I'm out here is because somebody said the whites were out here squatting on the land. D: You're white. You're white. F: I don't really want to hear why they're out here. You want to talk about why I'm here. That's great. Let's go talk. D: You've not here by invite. Go home. Dave: Sig Heil. |
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